Odun felt that the term, "pagan" is slightly demeaning, having the implication of "bumpkin" or "rube"--although I respect those who call themselves "pagan". It's analogous to "Santeria", which some take exception to, preferring Lukumi, while others embrace. I have chosen to call my understanding of "paganism" Sabaea, to make it distinct from the specific viewpoints of Odun and the SRO. What follows on this blog is my understanding of, and my slight modifications of, Odun's philosophical point of view.
A Sabaean, one who espouses the philosophy of Sabaea, derives the name of the philosophy from the ancient egyptian word "saba", meaning "star." I know that historically, "saba" and similar sounding words have other meanings in other languages, and various Sabians will disagree about the etymology of their own paths. That's fine for other varieties of ancient and modern Sabians. As such, those who espouse Sabaea are star children, recognizing that everything that exists was created in the stars.
Sabaeans believe in the mysterious, indefinable, transcendent and unnameable source of creation, which is none, one, and many (all) at the same time. Much like the Tao, the more you speak of it, the farther away you get from it. We have given it the title, "Amn", meaning "hidden", but that is not its name, because it has none. We feel that Allah, Elohim, God, Tao, are names that others give to it, and do not disagree with their definitions, because they apply to their own understanding of something that is beyond any person's complete comprehension. We feel that Amn manifests not only in the visible creation, but in life & consciousness. It is our belief that spirits, gods, etc., are all manifestations of Amn, but that Amn as a totality can never be understood or defined by man.
Sabaeans "follow their own head", i.e. have their own opinions and beliefs. We hold no one person or any one book as the ultimate authority on anything, but feel we that all works of art and knowledge can be learned from, that some degree of Amn manifests in everything composed in contemplation of it.
As star children, we recognize the ancient story of Utnapishtim, who became known as Noah in the Bible. Asked by the gods to write the sacred knowledge in a book that could not be destroyed by the Flood, he chose the stars, assigning meanings to the asterisms. As such, Sabaeans are people of the Book, mankind's book, the Stars. We observe that most of man's verifiable knowledge (mathematics, science) comes from our understanding of the Stars. They are a perfect book, not only in the aspect of their endurance, but also because what has been learned from them regarding science requires all of mankind's participation--through demonstratable, verifiable, repeatable experiment. Even so, Sabaeans and others reserve the right to disagree about the Stars' philosophical and religious importance, recognizing the "no one book as complete authority" rule.
Sabaeans may or may not chose to show reverence to various gods & spirits, because we believe that Amn cannot truly be worshipped or petitioned. These gods and spirits may be "localized" as Idols, Planets, Stars, Stones, Orisha, Irunmole, Angels, etc. as a means by which to approach the idea of Amn. Each spirit manifests Amn to a greater or lesser degree, but we emphasize that Amn may not be comprehended by mankind. Sabaeans recognize the validity of all other spiritual paths, but do not find them binding for Sabaeans. Many Sabaeans recognize ablution, baptism, cleansing etc., as fundamentally significant rituals, particularly in light of other meanings of Saba, and also in the metaphoric significance of the Flood.
Based on the above (and seconded by Wikipedia, "Sabians" as of 6/23/09) Sabaeans contend they are validly manifesting the path of Sabiah Mushrikun, one form of Sabianism as referred to in the Quran (but not necessarily the historic or exclusive one), and as such would be eligible to pay the fitna in a country with a Muslim government. We do not dispute Islam, we simply respectfully contend that it's not mandatory for Sabaeans, citing the explicit verses in the Quran.
Wikipedia has this to say about the SRO and I feel that it applies to all who espouse the viewpoint of Sabaea:
Another group ... is the 'Sabaean Religious Order'. Although neglecting the Budasaf independent rational theist's Noachian path, having a somewhat more polytheistic orientation, and even confusing "Shin" Sabaeans with "Saad" Sabians is The Sabaean Religious Order, they have grasped however that Sabi'anism per se revolves around astrological angelology and despite shortcomings seem to manifest the path of Sabiah Mushrikun.
Sabaeans may belong to any number of cults. I use the word "cult" here in its ancient sense, that of the "service of, and care for, a particular diety". In the interest of minimizing much of the reconstructionism prevalent in modern paganism (though there is nothing wrong with reconstruction) and to link with as much unbroken spirituality from the ancient world as possible, my teacher Odun became initiated into Lukumi. Ifa, Lukumi, Voudoun and other African diaspora religions continue to be cult choices of many Sabaeans, although not the only ones possible. I second Odun's belief that many of the cultural and cultic aspects of the Egyptians have filtered into Yoruba-born religions due to a long gradual cultural interchange along the ancient trade routes of the Sahel corridor. As such, the religions of the West African coast, the religions of the Afro/Caribbean Diaspora, are an unbroken lineage to antiquity. This is not meant in any way to imply they are derivative, as anyone who practices them knows they are original to the great African civilizations of the West African coast.I hope to discuss topics of interest to myself and, hopefully, the pagan community in general. I think Sabaea is a fairly open philosophic platform for my point of view, but I welcome any and all points of view.
Alafia.
Marassa, I also emailed you just now.
ReplyDeleteFrederick "Odun" d'Arechaga just passed away today on 1/13/2011. Please reply to my email at pjcorvus@yahoo.com
Marissa,
ReplyDeleteI just discovered this blog in pursuit of the now disappeared sabaean.org site.
I appreciated the gentle way you responded to generic’s slanderous comments about Odun and the goings on at the Temple of the Moon in Chicago.
I just heard of Odun’s passing after his long ordeal. Peace and Light be with his spirit.
I was a member of Odun’s entourage (I never became an initiate) since 1964 when he was running his mother’s store on Halsted St. The experience of the Temple and Frederic/Odun are milestones in my life—a life that has been far from ordinary. His presence and counsel have guided me through fair and foul times and have always contributed to my self-trust and my trust that Life is victorious over all works.
One of the salient experiences of Sabaeanism and the Temple was the reverence all present had for the children of the congregation. Once a year there was a celebration just for the little ones which was organized around some theme such a pirates, or the destruction of Pompeii (which Nina and I documented on tape).
In the upcoming weeks, I will be posting on You Tube a drumming that I taped.
Many of Odun’s godchildren are saddened by his passing but relieved that his spirit has been released from an unexplainable and disquieting bondage.
Plans are being made for some kind of a memorial—both actual and virtual (via the Internet). Anyone wishing to participate or contribute should contact me and I will pass your name and email on to those making the plans.
deboldt@gmail.com
Please provide your “Christian” name as well as your initiated name (if you have one) as well as your email.
Peace and Light be with your spirit,
Bob Boldt
Marassa,
ReplyDeleteForgive the name misspelling.
Also, the profile picture is of course a picture of Odun.
Peace,
B
Marassa, is this blog growing? are you adding pages? or have you created it to be a static depository which is no longer amended ? Thanks
ReplyDeleteNot sure PJ. I simply wanted to get a minimum up so that people could find out basic information about Odun and the SRO. Perhaps I'll post in the future, but no promises. Thanks for reading and taking an interest.
ReplyDeleteYou might want to check out the episode of the Animal Planet show "The Haunted" entitled "The House of the Rising Dead"...
ReplyDeleteSeen it. What a horrible misrepresentation of what went on at that house. The mirror was nothing but a mirror, I assure you. The normal Lukumi-style rites were held there, and animal sacrifice certainly occurred, but all with benign intent. Of course the kitchen floor was attractive to the dogs....Lukumi rites involve a lot of kitchen work (I should know, I gained my amazing speed and dexterity in plucking chickens under the tutelage of the SRO!). It's too bad the production company just wanted to sensationalize the house and not make an accurate documentary about the house, which would have been far less sensational, but more interesting, and probably as controversial as Odun was in life. TY for the heads-ups, tho!!!
DeleteI couldn't find "House of the Rising Dead" in my listings. Can you give a brief recap of the show? Was it about Odun's Temple of the Moon? How did they recreate the ceremonies--and why? What was the purpose of the show? I'll see what I come up with on Google.
ReplyDeleteI have nothing but wonderful memories of my time at the Temple in all its metamorphoses. The animal sacrifices were not for the squeamish who think hamburgers are magically unveiled from beneath McDonald's wrappers. It was always emphasized that the animal be sacrificed humanely, swiftly with as little suffering and pain as possible--unlike the poor creatures we consume so thoughtlessly from our commercial animal producers.
It's an episode of "The Haunted" on Animal Planet. They filmed the new owners of the Sabaean Temple in New Orleans as they took possession of the house after it was sold by the SRO. The purpose of the show was sensationalism and they didn't bother about finding out what kind of rituals were held in the house, they flat-out made them up. There are some great shots of the interior of the house-- if you were never able to visit it, I recommend watching it just to see what the house looked like, but the program content is sheer rubbish. Someone from the SRO apparently contacted the production company regarding possible libel, so the company put a disclaimer at the end of the show, and mentioned Odun, but that's about the only gesture of actual research. One heart-breaking scene shows one of the new owners grinning as he displays the graffiti he sprayed over a mural of Egyptian hieroglyphs prior to painting over them. OK, I get that a new owner would want to paint over them, but defacing them first? What a low-brow...
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ReplyDeleteFortunately I was able to visit the Temple in New Orleans. Like all of the spaces Odun created it was filled with peace and light. And I have the pictures to prove it.
Thanks for the headsup on the Animal Planet video. I was able to find it on Amazon online rental. I found “House of the Rising Dead” to be a real mixture of the credible and the incredible all blended with a highly distasteful, fictitious sensationalism.
“A family is frightened by strange occurrences in their recently purchased New Orleans home. As they continue repairs, they found mysterious and unsettling objects in the walls and under the floorboards from ancient Tarot cards to Human remains.”
From this blurb accompanying the film to many sensationalized details of the “documentary,” the producers seem resolutely intent on spreading misinformation, falsehoods and libel. There is no mention of “ancient Tarot cards.” Nothing is found in the walls. And no human remains were discovered.
I was not sure exactly the date when the family moved into the house. According to the script they seemed have moved in shortly after Katrina. The hurricane hit New Orleans in late August of 2005 and Odun passed on Jan 13, 2011. That would mean, if the renovation of the house occurred before 2011, it could not be Odun who was doing the “haunting.” The credits indicate the film was released in 2010. That means Odun would have been alive even when the interviews and the bogus séance were being conducted and could not have been the one responsible for the “haunting”— that is unless his still incarnated spirit somehow left his hospital bed in Chicago to make all this mischief!
I would like to check with Mike, Bill, Paul or Nina as to when the house went on the market, when the priesthood vacated the premises and what they took with them. For those not familiar with your blog I will post this to my email list of godchildren later in the week
ReplyDeleteI found most distasteful the whole way in which the Temple rituals were framed. They seemed to imply there was some sort of ritual homicide or homicides that took place, notably in the bedroom, kitchen and in the quarters in the back of the property. The bloodstain in the bedroom could easily have been animal blood. The fears that it was human blood were farfetched to say the least and pure speculation. The way the film handled the bone the dog dug up in the kitchen was even worse. They turned the bone over to the police and said they got no reply. (There is an unexplained reference in the titles to the coroner’s office.) It had to have been an animal bone. Had it been a human bone as the film’s promo and the homeowner implied, the forensics squad would have immediately been all over the place. The criminal justice system always takes very seriously the discovery of any suspicious skeletal artifacts of any age—even in New Orleans.
The dumbest sequence was where the Ghostbuster guys showed up to investigate and exorcize the demons. I guarantee, had the spirit of Odun been in the house, he would have instantly sent these two-bit hustlers out the door with their pants on fire!
There seems to be some contradiction afoot in the pronunciation of Odun’s name. Karla, the homeowner said, of the name spoken from the beyond, “It clearly said Odun” (without the ‘r’). Two of the researchers referred to Odun with the correct pronunciation. It was hard for me to tell from their recording of the spirit’s voice whether it was saying “Odun” or “Ordun.” This disparity places the whole thing in doubt as to the authenticity of their little “spirit box session” as they called. Of course the voice didn’t sound at all like Odun. I’m sure they just staged the whole thing for the camera—audio effects, blinking lights and all.
As you said, the real story could have been quite a bit more interesting. I’m not sure the SRO was officially contacted to get their side of the story. If any of the godchildren were contacted the script certainly didn’t reflect it. An interesting credit appears at the end of the film. Thanks are given to “The Sabaean Order Junior Achiever’s Sacrificial Fund.” All I could say after reading this cryptic title was WTF?!
ReplyDeleteI hope the priests, godchildren or friends of Odun can clear up some of the mystery connected with the reported occurrences described in this film. As I said it is such a mixture of fact and fiction that it is impossible to make sense of any of it. If indeed spirits of the dead were inhabiting the house, were they related to the Sabaean Religious Order or was their genesis the result of some other manifestation? Many spirits showed up at Odun’s séances. He was always careful to cleanse the space of any malevolent, impious or harmful entities whom would serve the spirit of wrong.
I would like to know if the space was ever desecrated or de-sanctified when the building was abandoned. I heard the library and the statue of Isis were taken when everyone left. It looks like a lot of the furnishings, mirrors, chandeliers, statuary, murals and architectural embellishments were just left in place. Of course Odun was not around the space just before the hurricane hit so he could not have personally de-sanctified the place. I wonder if an improper or hasty evacuation might have left some unexorcized ectoplasm hanging around to cause trouble to the future inhabitants. If we can take the owner at her dubious word, there must have been some really pissed off spirit or spirits in the place. I doubt it would have been Odun. (Her son’s artless defacing of Odun’s beautiful mural did piss me off.) I’ve known Odun to occasionally be bitchy but never to the extent of pushing someone down a flight of stairs, as was claimed by Karla and her sister.
Does anyone know the caretaker who was living in the place when Karla and her family moved in? Is there any truth to his claim that the mural in the back quarters was intended as a protection against invaders? I was also wondering why Joe (Krista’s slacker son) merely defaced the mural and didn’t just paint over it immediately since he seemed to take such umbrage at it. At the time of the filming it looked as if everything on site had been redecorated except the mural.
Maybe whatever spirits they claimed trouble with had to do with Odun's Palo practice...
DeleteI am not familiar with the term 'palo.' Can you describe it as it applies to Odun's practice?
DeleteOf course the tendency of those who knew Ordun is just to dismiss this bogus documentary as another typical piece of sensationalist media crap. Since Ordun’s passing I have become almost obsessed with encouraging the establishing of a record of his legacy that is presented with as much accuracy and respect as possible. I have no idea if Sabaenism will endure for the ages or take residence in the dustbin of discarded belief systems. All my life I have been interested in the genesis and metamorphosis of religions, cults and other forms of spiritual expression. It is very depressing to study the evolution of various established religions (like Christianity) and how the original teachings invariably become falsified and distorted by devotees and critics alike. I don’t want that to happen to Odun and the Sabaean Religious Order. We owe it to the memory and the legacy of Odun and his teachings to take every opportunity to rescue this history and keep distortions, as presented in documentaries like this one, from becoming part of the record. I am hoping that people like you and others can begin to assemble, in some permanent form, a history of the Temple and the teachings of Frederic de Arechaga, aka Odun, for posterity.
ReplyDeleteI’m afraid “House of the Rising Dead” does very little to shed either peace or light on a beautiful sacred space or on the memory of our beloved spiritual guide.
I was a member of the Temple around '76. I knew Ordun well. Kathy Garness as well. And Paul.
ReplyDeleteI found this site after watching that t.v. show. Can anyone explain to me the point of animals sacrifice in your religion? What does it accomplish? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteCheck out this site that describes the various kinds of Santeria sacrifices. I believe the details of animal sacrifice is pretty much the same as the sacrifices performed in the temple. I would appreciate any additional information others here might have that relates more specifically to Ordun's practice.
ReplyDeletehttp://santeriachurch.org/our-services/ritual-and-sacrifice/
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ReplyDeleteI ment to spell his name Odun. The pronunciation was Ordun.
ReplyDeleteWhile I'm here, I was wondering if anyone has read "Hamlet's Mill." It sounds so much like Odun's teachings it is amazing.
ReplyDelete"Our book is written in the stars." Odun
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ReplyDeleteThese shows on TV are always over the top sensational and are designed to entertain, but entertainment seems to always need a sort-of-scapegoat. People never seem to refrain from disrespect and all religious and philosophical beliefs are to be respected. I wonder how the so called demonologist featured on the show would feel if his beliefs were disrespected to entertain others? Just an observation.
ReplyDeleteAll religions should be respected, even if not followed. I am only intolerant of the intolerant.
ReplyDeleteSounds like nothing but a bunch of sad degenerate losers that were bullied at school and later invented a cult so they could feel somewhat important and powerful sacrificing helpless animals instead of something their own size.
ReplyDeleteUnkonwn's comments are at best speculative and at worst malicious and ignorant. Our animal sacrifices were always done with the greatest dignity and respect for the animal, which is more than I can say for the treatment of the poor sacrifices by modern industrial animal agriculture. Unless you are a vegetarian you have no right to criticize something of which you have no knowledge.
DeleteEXACTLY!!! he was a sicko that used his own god children for sex and money they just cant bear to admit it really sad i grew up there i bought the bull shit cool aid dragon spell too....pimped oput who eh copudl you do nto wnat to knwo about the sexual depravity that went on ask them about their sicko perv bullshit that will shut them up fast!!! attack your enemies weakness not strength
DeleteI thought I'd just check in to see what condition my condition was in. Anybody out there?
ReplyDeleteMay the following be and forever remain anonymous.
Deletebob you really are oblivious arent you!!!!
ReplyDeletedo you even get the amount of rape molestation, murder trafficking human sacrifice that went on there h
he sold his soul long since and tried to drag all of us to hell with him
stop the bull shit
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ReplyDeletei met ordun in '70 throuygh a friend, jack armstrong. always wondered what his rituyals entailed
ReplyDeleteHere is one ritual I filmed.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTuPZXtWlC4&t=119s